Tesla won&t be joining the scooter wars.

But electric bikes Yeah, maybe. During a lengthy podcast with Recode Kara Swisher, Tesla CEO Elon Musk talked about everything from AI and his fights on Twitter with journalists to Saudi Arabia and Mars.

Even scooters.

Of course, scooters. But don&t get your hopes up for a Tesla scooter.

According to Musk, they lack dignity.

Swisher persistence on the topic wasn&t enough to dissuade him. Here the exchange.

You can listen to the entire 80-minute session here. Kara:Make a scooter.

Make a scooter and I&ll go for it.

They actually are electric, what am I talking about Elon: I don&t know, there was some people in the studio who wanted to make a scooter, but I was like, &Uh, no.& Kara: I love the scooter, no, get on the scooter. Elon: It lacks dignity. Kara: No, it doesn&t lack dignity. Elon: Yes, they do. Kara: They don&t lack dignity, what are you talking about Elon: Have you tried driving one of those things They — Kara: Yes, I do it all the time, I look fantastic. Elon: They do not, you are laboring under an illusion. Kara: All right, well, everybody at Lime, don&t worry, Elon Musk is not coming for you. Elon: Electric bike.

I think we might do an electric bike, yeah.